“With Christianity comes absolutely everything that is good, true, beautiful, and human in our culture…”
Personally I can’t fathom anything more beautiful than having complete liberation over your own body, and the ability to form your own conclusions rather than accept dated church ideals instated hundreds of years ago.
Not everyone is Christian and those values should not be imposed upon others. That is the point of separation of church and state, the first clause in the Bill of Rights. If you are Christian and do not want an abortion, great, don't get one. You do not have the right to take away the option for others that do not follow Christianity. That is totalitarian. Abortion will never be outlawed, only the option for a safe one, and the lives of women who cannot safely carry a child to term will be on your hands. This is disgusting.
Separation of Church and state is an error: see Syllabus of Errors and Libertas (June 20, 1888). All men and all civil societies have a duty to freely recognize the historical realities of the Incarnation and Resurrection and give worship to God in the manner which he prescribed (Catholicism, partial credit for Eastern Orthodoxy). It is for this reason Our Lord says in one place: Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature. and in another Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Notice the word “nation” all nations have a duty to acknowledge and conform themselves to the Gospel. It isn’t until the French Revolution unthroned God and replaced Him with the Cult of Man that this principle was overthrown. But even still, our religion teaches that theft and murder are absolutely impermissible, are laws against theft and murder totalitarian handmaiden talesque attempts at imposing a theocracy on a country? No, because the evil of these acts can be known from the light of natural reason alone (Romans 1), likewise the evil of ending the life of an unborn in the womb can be known by natural reason, equally accessible to a Catholic, pagan, or Jew, alone.
The syllabus of errors and libertas was written by the catholic church, and is therefore not applicable to the Bill of Rights, it was just a protest. Your argument is invalid to those who are not christian yet again. The blood of women and children who will continue to have unsafe abortions is on your hands.
The spiritual power of the Church is superior to the coercive power of the state, see Suarez’s 1613 Defense of the Catholic and Apostolic Faith Against the Errors of the Anglican Sect, Book VI Concerning the Oath of Allegiance Enacted by the King of England. https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/selections-from-three-works
This is insane what is wrong with you. Women deserve the right to choose whether or not they want to have a child. Legal abortions not only provides that right, but also guarantees the right to bodily autonomy. Don’t try to use Catholicism to justify your own insanity.
There is no argument to disagree with because your position doesn't even get that far. Merely circuitous ramblings. And, btw, "highly respected conn alumn" is an awful lot of amour propre for a lad calling others "smug" and self-righteous", no? 😊
But also, to anyone interested, read "the dishonesty of the abortion debate", caitlin flanagan, for a constructive discussion of what is at stake here.
the word abortion doesnt appear in any of the 600 translations of the bible. the bible also has nothing to do with the law. you can’t use god to justify legislature
“With Christianity comes absolutely everything that is good, true, beautiful, and human in our culture…”
Personally I can’t fathom anything more beautiful than having complete liberation over your own body, and the ability to form your own conclusions rather than accept dated church ideals instated hundreds of years ago.
Fact check: FALSE
Not everyone is Christian and those values should not be imposed upon others. That is the point of separation of church and state, the first clause in the Bill of Rights. If you are Christian and do not want an abortion, great, don't get one. You do not have the right to take away the option for others that do not follow Christianity. That is totalitarian. Abortion will never be outlawed, only the option for a safe one, and the lives of women who cannot safely carry a child to term will be on your hands. This is disgusting.
Separation of Church and state is an error: see Syllabus of Errors and Libertas (June 20, 1888). All men and all civil societies have a duty to freely recognize the historical realities of the Incarnation and Resurrection and give worship to God in the manner which he prescribed (Catholicism, partial credit for Eastern Orthodoxy). It is for this reason Our Lord says in one place: Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature. and in another Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
Notice the word “nation” all nations have a duty to acknowledge and conform themselves to the Gospel. It isn’t until the French Revolution unthroned God and replaced Him with the Cult of Man that this principle was overthrown. But even still, our religion teaches that theft and murder are absolutely impermissible, are laws against theft and murder totalitarian handmaiden talesque attempts at imposing a theocracy on a country? No, because the evil of these acts can be known from the light of natural reason alone (Romans 1), likewise the evil of ending the life of an unborn in the womb can be known by natural reason, equally accessible to a Catholic, pagan, or Jew, alone.
The syllabus of errors and libertas was written by the catholic church, and is therefore not applicable to the Bill of Rights, it was just a protest. Your argument is invalid to those who are not christian yet again. The blood of women and children who will continue to have unsafe abortions is on your hands.
The spiritual power of the Church is superior to the coercive power of the state, see Suarez’s 1613 Defense of the Catholic and Apostolic Faith Against the Errors of the Anglican Sect, Book VI Concerning the Oath of Allegiance Enacted by the King of England. https://oll.libertyfund.org/title/selections-from-three-works
that does not matter. religion does not take precedence over someone’s body. your religious beliefs cannot dictate how someone else lives
Yes they can!
This is deeply important
This is insane what is wrong with you. Women deserve the right to choose whether or not they want to have a child. Legal abortions not only provides that right, but also guarantees the right to bodily autonomy. Don’t try to use Catholicism to justify your own insanity.
There is no argument to disagree with because your position doesn't even get that far. Merely circuitous ramblings. And, btw, "highly respected conn alumn" is an awful lot of amour propre for a lad calling others "smug" and self-righteous", no? 😊
Do you speak French?
Ostensibly so!
But also, to anyone interested, read "the dishonesty of the abortion debate", caitlin flanagan, for a constructive discussion of what is at stake here.
Anyway ...... use this link to donate to an abortion fund near you! https://www.thecut.com/article/donate-abortion-fund-roe-v-wade-how-to-help.html
Do it while you still can!
the word abortion doesnt appear in any of the 600 translations of the bible. the bible also has nothing to do with the law. you can’t use god to justify legislature
You have the right to not want an abortion for yourself, I have the right to get one if I do want it. it’s called pro-CHOICE for a reason
Don’t like theft? Don’t commit one!